by **Jarek** » Wed Sep 08, 2021 6:03 am

One point is that I agree with many people here that Bell theorem is not a problem (however, with a different argumentation) - so shouldn't the next step be searching for details of microscopic physics, like particle models?

So where to search for such models?

Maybe in hydrodynamics?

There are lots of hydrodynamical QM analogs e.g. Casimir, Aharonov-Bohm, double-slits interference, tunneling, orbit quantization (including Zeeman, double quantization), recreating quantum statistics - some gathered:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxvvhj0cnl1iqxr/Couder.pdfEspecially in superconductors/superfluids there are observed so called macroscopic quantum phenomena (

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroscop ... _phenomena ) - stable configurations like fluxon/Abrikosov vortex quantizing magnetic field due to topological constraints (phase change along loop has to be multiplicity of 2pi).

There is observed e.g. interference (

https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/1 ... .85.094503 ), tunneling (

https://journals.aps.org/prb/pdf/10.110 ... B.56.14677 ),

Also there is this famous Volovik's "The universe in helium droplet" book (

http://www.issp.ac.ru/ebooks/books/open ... roplet.pdf ).

Another point is just repairing electromagnetism:

1) that Gauss law can return any real charge, while in nature only integer - it can repaired by interpreting field curvature as electric field, making that Gauss law counts topological charge.

2) that point charge has infinite energy of electric field - what is repaired here by using Higgs-like potentials, allowing to deform field to prevent this infinity.

Finally, it seems at least interesting that looking at liquid crystals, its menagerie of topological defects nicely resembles particle menagerie:

One point is that I agree with many people here that Bell theorem is not a problem (however, with a different argumentation) - so shouldn't the next step be searching for details of microscopic physics, like particle models?

So where to search for such models?

Maybe in hydrodynamics?

There are lots of hydrodynamical QM analogs e.g. Casimir, Aharonov-Bohm, double-slits interference, tunneling, orbit quantization (including Zeeman, double quantization), recreating quantum statistics - some gathered: https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxvvhj0cnl1iqxr/Couder.pdf

Especially in superconductors/superfluids there are observed so called macroscopic quantum phenomena ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroscopic_quantum_phenomena ) - stable configurations like fluxon/Abrikosov vortex quantizing magnetic field due to topological constraints (phase change along loop has to be multiplicity of 2pi).

There is observed e.g. interference ( https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.85.094503 ), tunneling ( https://journals.aps.org/prb/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevB.56.14677 ),

Also there is this famous Volovik's "The universe in helium droplet" book ( http://www.issp.ac.ru/ebooks/books/open/The_Universe_in_a_Helium_Droplet.pdf ).

Another point is just repairing electromagnetism:

1) that Gauss law can return any real charge, while in nature only integer - it can repaired by interpreting field curvature as electric field, making that Gauss law counts topological charge.

2) that point charge has infinite energy of electric field - what is repaired here by using Higgs-like potentials, allowing to deform field to prevent this infinity.

Finally, it seems at least interesting that looking at liquid crystals, its menagerie of topological defects nicely resembles particle menagerie:

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/jjf0zt7q/obraz.png[/img]