by Schmelzer » Wed May 27, 2015 5:12 am
Joy Christian wrote:The central question is: Whether the world is governed by fundamentally probabilistic laws or deterministic laws? In other words, the question is: Whether or not the quantum mechanical randomness is reducible to ordinary classical randomness (as in coin tossing, gambling, weather, or currency fluctuations).
No. The conflict between you and Gill has nothing to do with indeterminism vs. determinism. You certainly can support determinism and Bell's theorem - as Bell himself, who was a strong supporter of de Broglie-Bohm theory, which is deterministic. You can support indeterminism and Bell - as proponents of, say, Nelsonian stochastics would do.
Regarding the motivations of people who do not accept what IMHO are simple proven theorems I, of course, cannot make any reasonable hypotheses, because this behaviour is IMHO irrational. But I would say that such irrational behaviour can be combined as with a belief in indeterminism, as with a belief in determinism.
Joy Christian wrote:What is more, now I have even managed to get an important paper published in a highly respected physics journal --- a journal in which Feynman published his pioneering paper on quantum computers, for example. This is what has made people like Gill go ballistic.
Oh, I, for example, was happy to hear that you have published in such a journal - a nice possibility to publish there a refutation
The journal "Annalen der Physik" has made me a similar present by publishing an Anti-Bell crank: "Schulz, B.: A new look at Bell’s inequalities and Nelson’s theorem, Annalen der Physik (Berlin) 18, No. 4, 231 (2009), arXiv:0807.3369v45" So, now I have a publication in the journal wher Einstein, Planck and Röntgen have published their most important papers: Schmelzer, I.: Comments on a Paper by B.Schulz about Bell's Inequalities, Ann. Phys. (Berlin), 523, 576–579 (2011)
Unfortunately, I have heard about your publication too late - Gill was faster publishing a refutation.
So, I hope you will have more success in the future - may be the next time I will be faster than Gill
But, please don't use a PRX journal for publishing. I will not publish in journals where one has to pay for publishing, even if it is prestigeous from mainstream point of view. In this case, I would leave to write the refutation to Gill.
[quote="Joy Christian"]The central question is: Whether the world is governed by fundamentally probabilistic laws or deterministic laws? In other words, the question is: Whether or not the quantum mechanical randomness is reducible to ordinary classical randomness (as in coin tossing, gambling, weather, or currency fluctuations).[/quote]
No. The conflict between you and Gill has nothing to do with indeterminism vs. determinism. You certainly can support determinism and Bell's theorem - as Bell himself, who was a strong supporter of de Broglie-Bohm theory, which is deterministic. You can support indeterminism and Bell - as proponents of, say, Nelsonian stochastics would do.
Regarding the motivations of people who do not accept what IMHO are simple proven theorems I, of course, cannot make any reasonable hypotheses, because this behaviour is IMHO irrational. But I would say that such irrational behaviour can be combined as with a belief in indeterminism, as with a belief in determinism.
[quote="Joy Christian"]
What is more, now I have even managed to get an important paper published in a highly respected physics journal --- a journal in which Feynman published his pioneering paper on quantum computers, for example. This is what has made people like Gill go ballistic.
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Oh, I, for example, was happy to hear that you have published in such a journal - a nice possibility to publish there a refutation :D The journal "Annalen der Physik" has made me a similar present by publishing an Anti-Bell crank: "Schulz, B.: A new look at Bell’s inequalities and Nelson’s theorem, Annalen der Physik (Berlin) 18, No. 4, 231 (2009), arXiv:0807.3369v45" So, now I have a publication in the journal wher Einstein, Planck and Röntgen have published their most important papers: Schmelzer, I.: Comments on a Paper by B.Schulz about Bell's Inequalities, Ann. Phys. (Berlin), 523, 576–579 (2011)
Unfortunately, I have heard about your publication too late - Gill was faster publishing a refutation. :(
So, I hope you will have more success in the future - may be the next time I will be faster than Gill ;)
But, please don't use a PRX journal for publishing. I will not publish in journals where one has to pay for publishing, even if it is prestigeous from mainstream point of view. In this case, I would leave to write the refutation to Gill.