local wrote:GW, given your failure to provide a function set integrating to -a.b, shall we conclude that you now accept that there is no such set, and that your "proof" must therefore be flawed?
GW, “local” is right.
local wrote:GW, given your failure to provide a function set integrating to -a.b, shall we conclude that you now accept that there is no such set, and that your "proof" must therefore be flawed?
gill1109 wrote:local wrote:GW, given your failure to provide a function set integrating to -a.b, shall we conclude that you now accept that there is no such set, and that your "proof" must therefore be flawed?
GW, “local” is right.
Gordon Watson wrote:gill1109 wrote:local wrote:GW, given your failure to provide a function set integrating to -a.b, shall we conclude that you now accept that there is no such set, and that your "proof" must therefore be flawed?
GW, “local” is right.
https://vixra.org/abs/2011.0073
Title: Bell's Theorem Refuted via True Local Realism
Abstract Bell's theorem has been described as the most profound discovery of science; one of the few essential discoveries of 20th Century physics; indecipherable to non-mathematicians. However, taking elementary analysis to be an adequate logic here, we refute Bell's theorem, correct his inequality and identify his error. Further, we do this under the principle of true local realism, the union of true locality (or relativistic causality: no influence propagates superluminally) and true realism (or non-naive realism: some existents change interactively). We thus lay the foundation for a more complete physical theory: one in line with Einstein's ideas and Bell's hopes. Let's see.
Gordon
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gill1109 wrote:Gordon Watson wrote:gill1109 wrote:local wrote:GW, given your failure to provide a function set integrating to -a.b, shall we conclude that you now accept that there is no such set, and that your "proof" must therefore be flawed?
GW, “local” is right.
https://vixra.org/abs/2011.0073
Title: Bell's Theorem Refuted via True Local Realism
Abstract Bell's theorem has been described as the most profound discovery of science; one of the few essential discoveries of 20th Century physics; indecipherable to non-mathematicians. However, taking elementary analysis to be an adequate logic here, we refute Bell's theorem, correct his inequality and identify his error. Further, we do this under the principle of true local realism, the union of true locality (or relativistic causality: no influence propagates superluminally) and true realism (or non-naive realism: some existents change interactively). We thus lay the foundation for a more complete physical theory: one in line with Einstein's ideas and Bell's hopes. Let's see.
Gordon
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Still no A, B and rho. The same misleading, ambiguous, unconventional notations. Gordon: you are not convincing anyone. You convinced yourself, and only yourself.
Gordon Watson wrote:
Richard,
1. Almost every sentence and every equation is precisely identified. After all, I am here to learn!
2. So please provide some clearly identified examples that support your claims re misleading and ambiguous notations. For, of course, I'll fix them.
3. Regarding my unconventional notation, please point me to their equivalents in the Bellian literature and I'll happily make changes.
4. As for the functions A and B : see Eqns (7)-(14) for their foundations.
5. As for ρ, surely it is clear from Eqn (19) that I use the standard ρ; the wholistic one that Bell uses:.
6. I hesitate to say more now (and prove you wrong) until I've had a chance to correct any obvious failings.
Thanks; Gordon.
local wrote:Please just state your A and B functions in a form that we can integrate. All those arrows in your equations are totally opaque. Telling us the "foundations" is useless. Thank you.
Your rho function is acceptable in principle; we can fill in the details once we have your A and B.
local wrote:It's total gobbledegook to me. I can't make any sense out of it whatsoever.
How about make a simulation? Do you know how to program?
You're not going anywhere with that paper if no-one can make any sense out of it.
local wrote:Later this evening or tomorrow I will give you an example calculation showing the functions and integration. Beware, it doesn't yield -a.b. Then hopefully you will be able to provide us with a similar derivation that yields -a.b.
Gordon Watson wrote: Good. Thanks. I am keen to see how close you can get to the QM result.
Incidentally: Do you have the QM calculation that provides the step-by-step result in Bell 1964:(3); ie, his eqn (3)?
local wrote:Nah, I don't see it. All I see is some deltas, babbling about equivalence relations, unusual operators, equations inside integrals, etc. Neither Richard nor I can make any sense of it. Trust me, we are both Cantabrians and smart guys!
Straight up Gordon, fill in the following equations:
A(a, lambda) = ???
B(b, lambda) = ???
Here is an example (not saying it is good for anything):
A(a, lambda) = abs(a - lambda) > PI/4 : 1; abs(a - lambda) <= PI/4 : 0
More typically, sin's and cos's are involved.
Don't talk to me about deltas, equivalence relations, equations within integrals, and all that stuff that both Richard and I find totally opaque. Just give the functions and I will write a simulation that shows it cannot produce -a.b. OK?Gordon Watson wrote: Good. Thanks. I am keen to see how close you can get to the QM result.
Obviously, it will be something like -a.b / 2, i.e., half the required amplitude. I'm not trying to get close to 'the QM result', and anyway, I don't believe that -a.b is "the QM result". Aren't you following the threads?Don't change the subject. Give me your functions that I can use to write a simulation.Incidentally: Do you have the QM calculation that provides the step-by-step result in Bell 1964:(3); ie, his eqn (3)?
local wrote:I suggest you try to get your work published. Good luck!
Gordon Watson wrote: Thanks. I guess, despite my offer to help, you're not comfortable with equivalence relations.
I wonder if the functions at the end might help you.
Now the above notation was my way of "improving" on Bell's failed attempt
A(a,λ) = sgn
B(b,λ) = -sgn
#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>
#include <memory.h>
constexpr auto PI = 3.1415926;
int results_A[1000];
int results_B[1000];
int main()
{
double lambda;
double a, b;
int sum;
double correlation;
int trial, trials;
FILE* f;
fopen_s(&f, "d:\\tmp\\out.txt", "w");
a = 0;
for (b = 0.0; b < PI; b += 2 * PI / 360)
{
memset(results_A, 0, 1000 * sizeof(int));
memset(results_B, 0, 1000 * sizeof(int));
sum = 0;
trials = 0;
for (lambda = 0.0; lambda <= 2 * PI; lambda += 2 * PI / 360)
{
results_A[trials] = cos(a - lambda) >= 0.0 ? 1 : -1;
results_B[trials] = cos(b - lambda) >= 0.0 ? -1 : 1;
trials++;
}
// Correlate.
for (trial = 0; trial < trials; trial++)
{
sum += results_A[trial] * results_B[trial];
}
correlation = (double)sum / trials;
fprintf(f, "a=%.2f b=%.2f correlation=%.2f\n", a, b, correlation);
}
fclose(f);
return 0;
}
local wrote:I just looked at Bell 1964. He explicitly gives the analytical solution for your functions. It is a linear function of theta (difference of the settings angles), just as my simulation shows.
Would you like to try again with a new set of functions?
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