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Review of my baryons = Yang Mills Monopoles Paper from PRD

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:10 am
by Yablon
Dear Friends:

As I mentioned last week, the Editor-in-Chief of Physical review D decided to himself review my 225 page paper which is preprinted at http://vixra.org/pdf/1403.0272v3.pdf. The review was a rejection, which I felt he was going to send, but at least now I have something to work with. I have had this review for all of 12 hours so will obviously want to take some time before a reply. But while these are things which might require more explanation than I have provided to date, I disagree that any of these are fundamental flaws. I will elaborate my reply more in the coming days. For the moment, however, because I find suppression abhorrent from anybody, I will not suppress but will widely share this negative review of my work, as I have done below. The three substantive remarks I will make right now are these:

1. Point 3 for the classical theory would be the most damaging, if it was correct. In fact, it is partly correct but not entirely, and that difference is very important. The issue raised here, I believe, is resolved by consideration of Dirac monopoles and the Dirac Quantization Condition. A. Zee's discussion of this is a good starting point to understand this, and I have linked that here: https://jayryablon.files.wordpress.com/ ... opoles.pdf. The reviewer is correct that "By appropriate local gauge transformation any nonzero surface integral of F can be made to vanish." But the monopoles have n=0,1,2,3... quantum states, and the "appropriate local gauge transformation" the reviewer refers to is into the n=0 state. So the gauge transformations themselves must be made in discrete, quantized fashion, which is one way of understanding what Dirac first taught. SO: yes, it is possible to use a gauge transformation to make my monopoles vanish, but also, the set of transformations available permit n=1, n=2... states as well. This is effectively the point made by Zee after (10) when he states "the whole point is that F is locally but not globally exact; otherwise by (6) the magnetic charge g=$_S^2 F would be zero." So in this context, what I am studying and developing are the n=1 states. And what I would now assert is that these n=1 states yield all of the nuclear empirical data I have outlined most recently in http://vixra.org/pdf/1411.0023v2.pdf, which is a compelling match to empirical data. The one caveat: the piece from Zee I linked above is for abelian gauge theory. It would be desirable to do the same calculation for Yang-Mills theory. Over the next week or two as time permits, I will look to develop that calculation.

2. The first part of point 2 about source free solutions is a red herring and wrong. As one individual has pointed out to me previously in private correspondence when the same reviewer made the same point about an earlier draft earlier this year, "It is well known that a differential operator is defined together with the boundary conditions. But the latter conditions are in fact determined by the sources. Anyway, do in nature (universe) source free electromagnetic waves indeed exist? There must be some source that produced them. In fact, there exists so called action-at-distance electrodynamics whose Lagrangian contains only sources. Wheeler and Feynman had shown that from such electrodynamics one can derive all the well-known results of conventional Maxwell electrodynamics." As to convergence, I would agree that I have not shown convergence. But a) that is just a statement about something I have not shown, not a fatality of the theory. And, b) if there is some domain of large J for which there is divergence, neither is that fatal. That may simply mean that there is a limited domain of convergence, which in some way in turn limits the physically viable sources, which may be a good thing.

3. I guess now is the time for me to comment as to the "burden of proof" which I carry as an author promoting a new theory, and when the burden or proof shifts from me to others in the community. The law makes these distinctions very clear; I am not sure that scientists have advanced as far as the law, in this case. Specifically, I have used this theory which the reviewer calls "fundamentally flawed" to match up a wide range of nuclear energy data that has never before been explained, as detailed in http://vixra.org/pdf/1411.0023v2.pdf. This not only includes a wide range of nuclear binding and fusion energies, but even the proton and neutron masses themselves within experimental errors. I believe that once an author shows -- as I have -- that his or her theory explains the observed proton and neutron masses within all experimental errors, the burden is shifted. Now, the community must accept the view that something is "right" about the theory which lead to that result, and that whatever is perceived to perhaps be "wrong with" or "missing from" the theory needs to be understood and filled in, and that some of the burden to do that shifts over to the scientific community as a whole. Otherwise, we start disregarding nature herself, and the whole point of the scientific method as taught by Galileo which advanced us from millennia during which people were able to espouse theories without ever connecting them to observed data, is that we must reset our thinking to line up with the theories that match nature. Once a theory matches up with nature as mine does, everybody else has to adjust their thinking and ask themselves "where is my own thinking amiss which would make me think that a theory which matches nature in this way is wrong because I think something differently." Matching nature this tightly is not some triviality that can be ignored because it contradicts the way someone -- even at the top of the physics world -- looks at the pertinent theories. Otherwise, the critic effectively says "perhaps you have explained nature, but I still do not believe you because what you have done does not fit with the way I and the community have organized the science in our own brains." It is always matches with empirical data which provide the threads that when pulled, can and do unravel the dominant scientific paradigms of the day. I have carried my burden. I am doing something right; and whatever I may have missed or not explained, there is more that is right than there is that is wrong. Nature is backing me up, and that is more important than anything else. Once a theory explains a wide range of empirical data previously unexplained, the burden shifts from the proponent to the wider community. I have met my burden by matching the natural observations, and by any responsible understanding of scientific practice, the burden has shifted to the community to make its understanding fit with what I have shown.

Anyway, enough from me, here is the review. Jay

PRD Editor-in-Chief wrote:I regret to say that, despite your revisions and additions, I still find that your manuscript is fundamentally flawed and not suitable for Physical Review D. I have outlined below some of the major problems that I see. These are nontrivial issues that cannot be remedied by simple revisions or additions. Rather, most of them are intrinsic to your approach and suggest that a complete rethinking is in order.

Classical Theory

1) Because the classical theory is scale-invariant, there is no way to pick out either a distance that specifies a confinement length or a mass scale that defines a mass gap. Hence, there can be no confinement.

2) Even in the Abelian theory the fields are not uniquely determined by the sources, since one can add arbitrary solutions of the (linear) source-free field equations. In the non-Abelian theory, which is already nonlinear before the addition of sources, there are nontrivial (i.e., not simply plane wave) solutions of the source-free field equations, so it should be clear that the sources cannot uniquely determine the fields. Furthermore, while you present a recursive scheme for defining an inverse operator, you fail to demonstrate that this scheme converges for arbitrarily large fields and sources; in fact, it is hard to see how this could fail to diverge when J is sufficiently large.

3) The surface integral of F is not gauge-invariant, and neither are the other surface integrals of quantities that you write down. By appropriate local gauge transformation any nonzero surface integral of F can be made to vanish. This not only invalidates your Eq. (3.3), but shows that physical conclusions cannot be drawn from the value of this quantity.

4) The discussion of topological stability that begins on page 71 appears to be based on serious misunderstanding of the relevant physics. The topology here is derived from the scalar fields that break the initial symmetry G, and topologically stable configurations must involve those scalar field. The truncated theory with the unbroken symmetry H and with those scalar fields omitted does not have topologically stable configurations.

Quantum Theory

1) In the quantum theory the need to introduce a renormalization scale breaks the scale invariance, thus allowing the possibility of a mass gap and of confinement. This leads naturally to the running of the coupling constant. The running coupling constant cannot be simply inserted ad hoc, as you have done.

2) The details of the running of the coupling constant, including whether or not there is asymptotic freedom, depend on the number of fermion and scalar fields entering the theory. Working with a path integral that only integrates over the gauge and ghost fields leads to a running that differs from that in QCD.

3) Without including the quark fields in the path integral, the theory is not QCD, and so there can be no baryons.

4) You try to evaluate the path integral with the aid of the inverse operator that you have defined by recursive methods. This is problematic not only because of the issues with the inverse described above, but also because the path integral is to be taken over all values of the fields, not simply those obeying the classical field equations.

5) Evaluation of the path integral inevitably requires dealing with divergences, because the bare coupling and the physical coupling differ by an infinite renormalization. This does not appear in you treatment.

Re: Review of my baryons = Yang Mills Monopoles Paper from P

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:45 am
by Joy Christian
Hi Jay,

You are taking the negative review in the best possible spirit, and that is the way it should be (provided the review is done with competence, knowledge, and integrity, as this one seems to have been).

The reviewer may or may not be right (regardless of his high position), but at least he has given your work the attention and respect it deserves.

Good luck with your revision and/or response to the review.

Best,

Joy

Re: Review of my baryons = Yang Mills Monopoles Paper from P

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:43 pm
by Yablon
Joy Christian wrote:Hi Jay,

You are taking the negative review in the best possible spirit, and that is the way it should be (provided the review is done with competence, knowledge, and integrity, as this one seems to have been).

The reviewer may or may not be right (regardless of his high position), but at least he has given your work the attention and respect it deserves.

Good luck with your revision and/or response to the review.

Best,

Joy

Thank you Joy.

I will make one other substantive comment on point 4 of the review under classical theory:

PRD Chief Editor wrote:4) The discussion of topological stability that begins on page 71 appears to be based on serious misunderstanding of the relevant physics. The topology here is derived from the scalar fields that break the initial symmetry G, and topologically stable configurations must involve those scalar field. The truncated theory with the unbroken symmetry H and with those scalar fields omitted does not have topologically stable configurations.

The reviewer appears to have misunderstood me, or maybe I did not express myself clearly. But I dealt with using the scalar fields to break symmetry fully and completely in my peer-reviewed publication at http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownl ... erID=30822, and the SU(3)xU(1) group following the second of three symmetry breaks does yield topologically-stable monopoles. Additionally, the same cascade of symmetry breaking led not only to precisely three fermion generations, but to the observed CKM mixing of the left-chiral quark and (separately) lepton flavors.

Jay

Re: Review of my baryons = Yang Mills Monopoles Paper from P

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:05 pm
by Yablon
PRD Editor-in-Chief wrote:...
Classical Theory
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4) The discussion of topological stability that begins on page 71 appears to be based on serious misunderstanding of the relevant physics. The topology here is derived from the scalar fields that break the initial symmetry G, and topologically stable configurations must involve those scalar field. The truncated theory with the unbroken symmetry H and with those scalar fields omitted does not have topologically stable configurations.
...

I have now had several days to assimilate the review from PRD, and I know what I need to do.

The disconnect I am having from the people who are not accepting my papers, which is made clear to me especially in point 4 of the review excerpted above, results from the fact that I am not making clear, up front, and in detail, that the monopoles I am using as baryons are the very same topologically-stable monopoles that t'Hooft and Polyakov first discovered, and which emerge in SU(3)_C form when, for example, the Georgi-Glashow SU(5) GUT is broken down into SU(3)_C x SU(2)_W x U(1)_Y by virtue of the SU(3)_C x U(1)_Y factor which this includes.

My mistake --and it is a serious communication mistake but not a science mistake -- is that I keep referring to these as Yang-Mills magnetic monopoles, rather than t'Hooft-Polyakov magnetic monopoles. I do go on to show how I get to these monopoles following symmetry breaking, and in fact I have done all the right things to make these monopoles topologically stable. But that is lost in translation because I am leaving an immediate false impression with the reader that I am missing the required topology and the required scalar fields, notwithstanding that I devoted an entire paper at http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownl ... erID=30822 precisely to dealing with this symmetry breaking and developing the scalar fields while in the process explaining why there are three fermion generations which have left-chiral mixing for quarks and leptons.

So, here is what I plan to do over the next several weeks following thanksgiving. I am going to write a new paper. But rather than come at this with my own approach to the monopoles, I will start immediately with the colored monopoles of Georgi-Glashow SU(5) and show how these are baryons. That way I am piggybacking on something that is widely accepted and I do not leave the impression that my proposed monopole baryons are any different from these accepted topological colored monopoles, or that I am missing something important. I will progressively build to that by first reviewing Dirac monopoles, then reviewing the U(1) t'Hooft-Polyakov monopoles, then reviewing the SU(3)_C t'Hooft-Polyakov monopoles that emerge from breaking SU(5). I will then show how these monopoles -- not some other monopoles -- can be made into baryons. Then, I will establish that this can be done for any t'Hooft-Polyakov monopoles which emerge following symmetry breaking from any simple gauge group SU(N>3) down to a smaller group which includes SU(3)_C x U(1). Finally, I will show why the SU(8) group I am using in http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownl ... erID=30822 is preferable to SU(5) because it enables both protons and neutrons to be fashioned from these monopoles, and because it fully explains the raison d'etre for three fermion generations with (separate) left-chiral quark and lepton mixing. From there, the table is set for all the empirical retro-dictions I have been able to make to date.

My long title is:

Why the t’Hooft Polyakov Monopoles emerging from the Symmetry Breaking of Georgi-Glashow SU(5) to SU(3)_C×SU(2)_W×U(1)_Y are baryons, as are any SU(3)_C t’Hooft Polyakov Monopoles which result when any Simple Gauge Group SU(N>3) is broken down to a group containing SU(3)_C×U(1)

My short title is:

Why SU(3)_C t’Hooft Polyakov Monopoles are baryons.

I would appreciate your thoughts as to whether this approach might finally help me break through this failure to communicate.

Thanks,

Jay

Re: Review of my baryons = Yang Mills Monopoles Paper from P

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:27 pm
by Joy Christian
Hi Jay,

Sounds like a good plan to me. It is always better to build on previously well established ideas. Besides, people are more receptive of ideas they have seen or heard about before. But make sure to be explicit in your paper about where the previous ideas end and your contribution begins. There should be no ambiguity about this.

Best,

Joy