Joy Christian's model

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Joy Christian's model

Postby Brad Johnson » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:27 pm

re: spooky action at a distance;
It seems plausible that both arguments presented can be considered correct. Let me explain.
From the perspective of the lab the entangled particles are clearly separated and it appears
that FTL communication is exhibited. However, the model presented shows that from the
perspective of the particles there is no separation.
How can that be? I'll outline a scenario that may cast light (or may not!) But, first I need to
set the stage by drawing an analogy. The orbit of any body around another can be modeled as
a circle or close enough for this purpose. IOW a 1 sphere contained in a 2 sphere with the center
of attraction at the center(or close enough; disregarding the barycenter).
Now consider a 2nd body occupying the same orbit 180 degrees away . For each body to be
influenced at the same time the stimulus must come from the central body. That is they occupy the
same temporal frame of reference.
But, in the case of entanglement the 2 particles occupy a zero sphere contained within a 1 sphere.
any influence on both must come from within that 1 sphere. There is no temporal reference! So from
the perspective of the two particles there is no temporal separation!
Consider this from another angle. When two or more particles merge to form a new distinct species
it is their fields that interact first. That is, the two 3d fields merge to form a new type of object. Now consider
an entangled pair. As they separate they must form 3d distinct fields. A 7 sphere seems to be a natural model
to use to show two distinct 3d fields forming from what was one 3d field.

Now, as to Joy's post concerning entanglement in curved spacetime. I posed a question to him that related
his model to Weyl's gauge theory. I'll elucidate that question a little more with respect to two particles
occupying the same zero sphere. When considering only a weak field limit one can use Schwartszchild coordinates
to specify a metric within that curved space. But, what happens if one particle stays in curved space while
the other enters a Void? It seems reasonable to ask if the particle that enters a Void doesn't lose its
affiliation with its twin as a result of entering a new metric. The new metric has its own distinct temporal
reference and considering that they started on a 1 sphere with no temporal separation, what is their status now
with respect to each other?

Am I all wet?
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Re: Joy Christian's model

Postby FrediFizzx » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:56 pm

Brad Johnson wrote: Am I all wet?
Brad Johnson

Mostly. As soon as the particles created from a common source (singlet state) separate, there is no longer any kind of affiliation other than the fact that they were created from a common source. IOW, in Joy's model, they still both are parts of a right or left handed system when considering both particles. When just considering one or the other by itself, then how would you be able to tell?
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