### Re: My Challenge to All Bell-Believers --- Meet it or Beat i

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**Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:49 am**Joy Christian wrote:***

There is no "Gull's proof." There is not even a sketch of a proof. At best, it is just wishful thinking by Gull.

One obvious problem with Gull's wishful thinking is that his argument ignores the geometry and topology of the physical space in which EPR-Bohm type experiments are performed.

As for my claim of "stealing", the fact remains that neither Bell nor the early followers of Bell ever gave any credit to Boole for his inequality. That is "stealing" in my book.

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I do see a sketch of a proof in Gull's overhead slides. Lots more people saw it and understood that it was easy to write out a complete and formal proof. Nobody bothered to do it because it was so easy. Please do take a careful look!

I wonder most of all, what other people on the forum here think of it?

I took Gull's outline even further in my https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.6403 "The triangle wave versus the cosine (how to optimally approximate EPR-B Correlations by classical systems)"

Your accusation that J.S. Bell actually did shamelessly steal ideas from others brings various well-known sayings to my mind! Surely you knew him better (in real life, in person) than to seriously mean that. And what did Abner Shimony think of the "theft"? Tsk, tsk, tsk.