Heinera wrote:Using the good old detection loophole trick.
FrediFizzx wrote:Heinera wrote:Using the good old detection loophole trick.
Nope. Of course we expect Bell fans to think that way with your limited topological perspective but it is actually a result of 3-sphere topology that those states don't exist in the first place. For the simulation they are just mathematical artifacts.
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gill1109 wrote:No, of course, this is not the detection loophole. This is the sign-change trick.
Heinera wrote:gill1109 wrote:No, of course, this is not the detection loophole. This is the sign-change trick.
This is a different simulation than the one with the sign change trick. It's a small modification of one of mfodje's simulations.
Heinera wrote:Using the good old detection loophole trick.
jreed wrote:Heinera wrote:Using the good old detection loophole trick.
Yes you are correct. The expression for z , now called "Complete States Parameter" which is used in this program when certain conditions arise to eliminate states is the loophole. It was in EPR-Simple where it was called the hidden variable lambda, and originally comes from Pearle's paper on the detection loophole according to Richard.
Another feature of this new simulation is the use of the hidden variable lambda (right and left hand coordinates) to get rid of those pesky imaginary values. The Mathematica code is almost unreadable in the do loop part of the program because of all the calls to Flatten and matrix manipulations. It should be possible to clean it up a lot.
FrediFizzx wrote:Here is the Mathematica code for the above superdeterministic plot. Sorry Bell fans, this is most likely how Nature works. Your days are numbered now!
EPRsims/QMlocal_CS_no0s_redacted.pdf
Looks like Joy was right again about 3-sphere topology.
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ajw wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:Here is the Mathematica code for the above superdeterministic plot. Sorry Bell fans, this is most likely how Nature works. Your days are numbered now!
EPRsims/QMlocal_CS_no0s_redacted.pdf
Looks like Joy was right again about 3-sphere topology.
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This line doesn't seem quite right (x2 must probably be y1?):
aliceDeg[[j]]=ArcTan[x1, x2];
FrediFizzx wrote:Here is a link to download an Excel file with A and B data for about 100K trials.
EPRsims/dataAB100K.xlsx
All A and B's are +/-1's. So we have figured out how quantum mechanics can predict individual outcomes for A and B. It's golden, baby!
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ajw wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:Here is a link to download an Excel file with A and B data for about 100K trials.
EPRsims/dataAB100K.xlsx
All A and B's are +/-1's. So we have figured out how quantum mechanics can predict individual outcomes for A and B. It's golden, baby!
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Shouldn't the angle settings for Alice and Bob be included in this XLS?
ajw wrote:I am talking about the raw measurement data (I thought the .xls was supposed to be this), like you can obtain can in a real EPR experiment: angle Alice , Angle Bob, + or -1 for Alice, + or -1 for Bob.
Unfortunately I don't have Mathematica so I can't do the simulation without converting the code. But it looks very interesting!
FrediFizzx wrote:ajw wrote:I am talking about the raw measurement data (I thought the .xls was supposed to be this), like you can obtain can in a real EPR experiment: angle Alice , Angle Bob, + or -1 for Alice, + or -1 for Bob.
Unfortunately I don't have Mathematica so I can't do the simulation without converting the code. But it looks very interesting!
Thanks. This is the raw measurement data. The Excel file of A and B outcomes match the a, b and s data line for line. You have to have s because of the polarizer functions. The angle data is in x, y and z coordinates.
Did you get the email I sent you? What would you convert it to if you were to do that?
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ajw wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:Here is the Mathematica code for the above superdeterministic plot. Sorry Bell fans, this is most likely how Nature works. Your days are numbered now!
EPRsims/QMlocal_CS_no0s_redacted.pdf
Looks like Joy was right again about 3-sphere topology.
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This line doesn't seem quite right (x2 must probably be y1?):
aliceDeg[[j]]=ArcTan[x1, x2];
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