Q-reeus wrote:Unless that quoted or paraphrased was a private communication, I take it there is an available link to the relevant Gill article or posting or whatever it was?
Joy Christian wrote:Q-reeus wrote:Unless that quoted or paraphrased was a private communication, I take it there is an available link to the relevant Gill article or posting or whatever it was?
Here (see the newest post by him): http://vixra.org/abs/1504.0102
Q-reeus wrote: [edit2: Firefox is hopeless using Disqus features like sort by. Using Chrome I was able to sort comments by date and yes Gill has last responded about a week ago. Which qualifies as recent.]
A person who challenges the conventional wisdom is likely first to be ignored, then dismissed and finally, if these responses are inadequate, attacked. The first stage is being ignored. When an outsider sends a paper to established scientists, for example, many will not bother to reply. When an entire dissident field establishes its own publications, it may be ignored by the mainstream.
Dismissal is the most common response when seeking formal recognition in orthodox channels. A paper sent to a top journal may be rejected without being sent to referees. Editors often perform a screening function, deciding what is credible enough to warrant serious consideration. Editors can also affect the likelihood of acceptance by their selection of referees.
Sometimes, though, dissidents cannot be silenced by ignoring and rejecting them. They may develop their own constituency or gain publicity. For example, nonscientists who point out the healing power of herbs, based on their own observations, are usually ignored by medical researchers. Some researchers carry out careful studies of herbs and seek publication; they are likely to encounter difficulties or, if their work is published, be ignored by the mainsteam. However, there is a thriving alternative health movement which is very receptive to any findings about the benefits of herbs. This poses a threat to corporations, governments, and scientists with a stake in the conventional approach based on synthetic drugs. At this stage, one possibility is attack.
A scientist can be attacked in various ways, including ostracism, petty harassment, excessive scrutiny, blocking of publications, denial of jobs or tenure, blocking access to research facilities, withdrawal of research grants, threats, punitive transfers, formal reprimands, demotion, spreading of rumors, deregistration, dismissal, and blacklisting, and threats of any of these. There are numerous documented cases in various fields. For example, many scientists pursuing research critical of pesticides or proposing alternatives to pesticides have come under attack, for example having grants removed or being threatened with dismissal (Martin, 1996; van den Bosch, 1978). Dentists critical of fluoridation have been threatened with deregistration (Martin, 1991; Waldbott, 1965). Government scientists critical of nuclear power have lost their staff and been transferred as a form of harassment (Freeman, 1981; Martin, 1986). Parapsychologists have encountered difficulties in their careers (Hess, 1992).
Dr John Coulter, a scientist at the Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science in Adelaide, South Australia, spoke out about about various environmental and health issues. After he commented about hazards of pesticides in a talk, the pesticide manufacturer wrote a letter of complaint to the director of the Institute. After Coulter did a study of the mutagenic potential of a sterilising agent used at the Institute and released his results to the workers, he was dismissed (Martin et al., 1986).
Dr George Waldbott, a prominent allergist and author of hundreds of scientific papers, was the leading US opponent of fluoridation from the mid 1950s through the 1970s. Waldbott was visited by a German profluoridationist who misrepresented his intentions, gained access to Waldbott’s files and then wrote a critical account Waldbott’s methods. This misleading account later appeared in a dossier on opponents of fluoridation compiled by the American Dental Association and was used to undermine Waldbott wherever he appeared (Waldbott, 1965).
The actual cases that are publicized are the tip of the proverbial iceberg, for several reasons. Many dissenters do not make an issue of attacks, preferring to keep a low profile and continue their careers. Also, only some types of attacks are easy to document, such as reprimands and dismissals. It is very difficult to prove that failure to get a job or grant is due to discrimination.
Attacks on dissidents are never admitted as such. They are always justified as being due to inadequacies on the part of the dissident, such as low quality work or inappropriate behavior. To determine whether actions against someone are justifiable, it is useful to use the "double standard test." Is the same action taken against everyone with the same level of performance? Or is the person who is challenging conventional wisdom harassed or reprimanded, while others with similar performance are unaffected?
Another useful test is to ask whether the response is in line with normal scientific behavior. If a scientist writes a challenging paper, it should be considered quite legitimate for someone to call or write to the scientist questioning the method or results or complaining about bias. This is a process of engagement and dialogue, and does not jeopardize the scientist’s ability to continue research. Even strong language should be tolerated if it is directly to the scientist or published in a journal where there is a timely opportunity to reply. On the other hand, when a critic threatens a law suit or writes to the scientist’s boss or institution making a complaint, this is obviously an attempt to intimidate or hinder the scientist’s work or career. The "call to the boss" is very common and is an excellent indicator that a response is an attempt to suppress dissent rather than engage in dialogue.
Attacks are much the same whether they are made against scientists presenting challenging ideas, against whistleblowers who speak out about scientific fraud or corporate corruption, or against scapegoats who become targets for whatever reason. Most scientists are completely unprepared for attacks. They do not realize that science can be a ruthless power play in which the most underhanded methods may be used against those who challenge vested interests. They believe, incorrectly, that formal channels, such as grievance procedures, professional associations, and courts, provide reliable avenues for justice, when actually they are strongly weighted in favor of those with more money and power. In order to survive and thrive as a challenger, it is necessary to understand the operations of power as well as knowledge. Most of all, it is important to work out a strategy.
Joy Christian wrote:***
For convenience, here is the revised presentation of the central derivation in the new version of my latest paper I have linked above:
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Joy Christian wrote:***
It is worth noting here that, given the following relation specified in Eq. (16) of the above paper,
the following geometrical identity holds almost trivially,
which can be verified by recalling that all unit bivectors square to -1. This again demonstrates that Eq. (31) of the above paper immediately follows from Eq. (27),
thanks to the conservation of zero spin angular momentum for each iteration (or run) of the experiment:
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Joy Christian wrote:***
Here is a figure from Peres's book (cited in my paper) which may help to understand what is meant by conservation of angular momentum in the present context:
My apologies to physicists. I am posting this figure for the "mathematicians" like Gill and Lockyer who often have difficulty understanding simple physical concepts.
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Joy Christian wrote:***
Richard D. Gill is still arguing with Fred elsewhere on the Internet, and still making his usual fallacious claims about my derivation in this paper, despite the fact that his elementary mistakes have been pointed out to him by me, Fred, and Tom, by now literally hundreds of times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwyXV6zv7CU.
thray wrote:Just so, Fred!
And, 'entirely contained within its postulates' is the framework for mathematical completeness.
Best,
Tom
FrediFizzx wrote:And you would think that a PhD'ed mathematicians and physicists like Gill and Schmelzer would see that but no, they are way too prejudiced to see the truth.
Joy Christian wrote:Two important points are worth bringing out from what Clauser and Shimony summarise above:
(1) The spins --- which emerge from a net spin-zero state --- are no longer interacting at the time of their separate measurements along a and b.
(2) Only the components of spins along the detector directions a and b are measured by the experimenters, exactly as encapsulated in my model.
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FrediFizzx wrote:Joy Christian wrote:Two important points are worth bringing out from what Clauser and Shimony summarise above:
(1) The spins --- which emerge from a net spin-zero state --- are no longer interacting at the time of their separate measurements along a and b.
(2) Only the components of spins along the detector directions a and b are measured by the experimenters, exactly as encapsulated in my model.
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In a pure EPR-Bohm scenario wouldn't the spins actually be directed to a and b? IOW, the Stern-Gerlach device (polarizer) does s1 --> a and s2 --> b exactly like in your math.
Joy Christian wrote:
Interesting. So Richard Gill is now targeting Michel Fodje's academic affiliations and personal background. This is how Gill begins his malicious campaign against his intellectual superiors (ask Professor Karl Hess, for example). This is how he began harassing me and many others before me. He began gathering all sorts of personal information about my background. Then he planted a numbers of incriminating evidence against me on the Internet, such as a fake letter from my PhD advisor and some blog posts elsewhere in my name (as if I had written them), before bombarding my academic superiors with malicious letters and emails about me, such as to the President of my College at Oxford University. His motivation behind these callous acts had been to debilitate me personally, financially, and academically, in order to eliminate the threat I posed to his vested interests. Now he has began to target Michel Fodje's academic affiliations and personal background in the same manner, because he now sees him also as a threat to his vested interests. But Michel is very careful, and hence untouchable. Gill is not going to be able to harm him. Gill has succeeded in harming me to some extent, for example by finding some political alliances against me within my College in Oxford, but in the end his malicious efforts have only made me stronger. So with me too Gill's malicious intensions and campaign have ultimately failed.
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