Yablon wrote:Take a look at (13.2) which is 4.279 GeV, and the Fermi vev which is 246.2196508 GeV. These are the two minima required for the potential V used to extract the Higgs field. This means that there also has to be a maximum somewhere between these numbers...
FrediFizzx wrote:Yablon wrote:Take a look at (13.2) which is 4.279 GeV, and the Fermi vev which is 246.2196508 GeV. These are the two minima required for the potential V used to extract the Higgs field. This means that there also has to be a maximum somewhere between these numbers...
I'm confused. If 4.279 GeV and 246.2196508 GeV are minima, how can there be a maximum between them?
Yablon wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:Yablon wrote:Take a look at (13.2) which is 4.279 GeV, and the Fermi vev which is 246.2196508 GeV. These are the two minima required for the potential V used to extract the Higgs field. This means that there also has to be a maximum somewhere between these numbers...
I'm confused. If 4.279 GeV and 246.2196508 GeV are minima, how can there be a maximum between them?
Simple example:. Minimum at . Minimum at . Maximum between them at .
Look at this: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8
and imagine a second local, not global minimum (a "little dipper") close to on both sides of .
FrediFizzx wrote:Yablon wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:Yablon wrote:Take a look at (13.2) which is 4.279 GeV, and the Fermi vev which is 246.2196508 GeV. These are the two minima required for the potential V used to extract the Higgs field. This means that there also has to be a maximum somewhere between these numbers...
I'm confused. If 4.279 GeV and 246.2196508 GeV are minima, how can there be a maximum between them?
Simple example:. Minimum at . Minimum at . Maximum between them at .
Look at this: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8
and imagine a second local, not global minimum (a "little dipper") close to on both sides of .
So if the x axis is energy then I guess it is all shifted over to the right side of x = 0. Then what does the y axis represent physically?
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thray wrote:"The neutrinos draw their masses from a vacuum that is centered at zero. So the entirely of their mass content arises from quantum fluctuations, and nothing else."
This is excellent, Jay, and carries important experimental implications. E.g., radiation without annihilation.
FrediFizzx wrote:thray wrote:"The neutrinos draw their masses from a vacuum that is centered at zero. So the entirely of their mass content arises from quantum fluctuations, and nothing else."
This is excellent, Jay, and carries important experimental implications. E.g., radiation without annihilation.
I doubt that it is true however. We have that the neutrino masses are due entirely to gravitational torsion.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1705.06036
However, the trick is what sets the particular fermion masses to the values we measure? I suspect it has to be due to the geometrical-topological configuration of the quantum vacuum. I think Jay is actually exposing some of this geometry with his latest.
Yablon wrote:OK all, here is the latest draft: https://jayryablon.files.wordpress.com/ ... 12-spf.pdf
Yablon wrote:4) Sound the trumpets: IN SECTION 16 I AM PREDICTING A SECOND HIGGS BOSON AFFILIATED WITH LEPTON INTERACTIONS, INCLUDING WHAT ITS MASS WILL BE. See (16.1) for the mass prediction.
Yablon wrote:Yablon wrote:4) Sound the trumpets: IN SECTION 16 I AM PREDICTING A SECOND HIGGS BOSON AFFILIATED WITH LEPTON INTERACTIONS, INCLUDING WHAT ITS MASS WILL BE. See (16.1) for the mass prediction.
I have just worked this through in detail. Out of the four possible masses for the new Higgs that I showed in (16.1), it turns out that the correct mass, and the one I will definitively predict next time through, is 964.524 MeV, on the lower-right of (16.1). This is not the mass I thought most likely in the paragraph following (16.1). This updated view is based on now having a much deeper understanding of the neutrino masses, and is arrived at by very carefully comparing Figures 2c and 8 of the draft that I posted the other day.
Joy Christian wrote:Yablon wrote:Yablon wrote:4) Sound the trumpets: IN SECTION 16 I AM PREDICTING A SECOND HIGGS BOSON AFFILIATED WITH LEPTON INTERACTIONS, INCLUDING WHAT ITS MASS WILL BE. See (16.1) for the mass prediction.
I have just worked this through in detail. Out of the four possible masses for the new Higgs that I showed in (16.1), it turns out that the correct mass, and the one I will definitively predict next time through, is 964.524 MeV, on the lower-right of (16.1). This is not the mass I thought most likely in the paragraph following (16.1). This updated view is based on now having a much deeper understanding of the neutrino masses, and is arrived at by very carefully comparing Figures 2c and 8 of the draft that I posted the other day.
Congratulations, Jay, for all these new results. I hope you succeed also in publishing them. I haven't been paying much attention as I am still engaged in old battles of my own, but hopefully Fred is keeping an eye on your results. Although I have been silent, I am sure you know that you have my full support in your endeavors.
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