gill1109 wrote:
Thanks for posting this! There is already an interesting discussion evolving there on ResearchGate.
gill1109 wrote:Thanks for posting this! There is already an interesting discussion evolving there on ResearchGate.
Heinera wrote:
If you understand the proof, you will never have to reference Bell's paper ever again. The proof is that simple.
Joy Christian wrote:Heinera wrote:
If you understand the proof, you will never have to reference Bell's paper ever again. The proof is that simple.
That is very true. The "proof" of Bell's claim is so mind-numbingly flawed that no one should ever refer to it at all. In fact, Bell's paper should be retracted from all of its published forms.
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FrediFizzx wrote:Proof? What proof? The "theorem" is a word theorem so there is no mathematical proof. The only "proof" I need is that it is mathematically impossible for anything to "violate" the inequalities.
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Heinera wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:Proof? What proof? The "theorem" is a word theorem so there is no mathematical proof. The only "proof" I need is that it is mathematically impossible for anything to "violate" the inequalities.
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Which is exactly why Sashsa Vongehr published his Randi Quantum (c****pot) Challenge. No words. Only computer code. Still not met.
Heinera wrote:
...Sashsa Vongehr published his Randi Quantum (c****pot) Challenge.
Heinera wrote:
I can come up with at least a dozen Monty Python sketches that illustrate this perfectly.
Heinera wrote:Yes, yes, but still very entertaining.
FrediFizzx wrote: Only a fool would ever try to beat that rigged challenge.
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Heinera wrote:FrediFizzx wrote: Only a fool would ever try to beat that rigged challenge.
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That is correct. It is rigged because of Bell's theorem, which says it is impossible.
FrediFizzx wrote:No, it is rigged because of the inequality which is mathematically impossible to "violate". You are mixing up the theorem with the inequality.
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Heinera wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:No, it is rigged because of the inequality which is mathematically impossible to "violate". You are mixing up the theorem with the inequality.
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That inequality is called Bell's inequality. That the Randi Quantum (c****pot) Challenge can't be won is called Bell's theorem. The challenge doesn't mention any inequality. The challenge is simply to reproduce the quantum correlations by simulation.
Heinera wrote:FrediFizzx wrote:No, it is rigged because of the inequality which is mathematically impossible to "violate". You are mixing up the theorem with the inequality.
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That inequality is called Bell's inequality. That the Randi Quantum (c****pot) Challenge can't be won is called Bell's theorem. The challenge doesn't mention any inequality. The challenge is simply to reproduce the quantum correlations by simulation.
FrediFizzx wrote:The challenge certainly does use the inequality.
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